We began this podcast in response to the murder of  George Floyd, Amy Cooper’s weaponization of her white femininity, and the subsequent uprising.  We believe that honesty, openness, and love can bridge the gap between people of color and white people.  So let’s just call it what it is—what do Black Women need to say to White Women?  What do we all face together?  What do we need to own?  Where and how do we show compassion?   How do we move forward together?

Let’s be clear, we know we won’t solve the problems or even make them go away, but we want to find ways to open dialogue, listen, heal, and move forward together.  We’re good friends, and we hope to share our journey and our evolution with you.

Yet this podcast is not all about race.  Boomers, Gen Xers, Millennials, and Gen Zs—what can we learn from one another?  We want to explore what womanhood means in today’s world.  We want to embrace all our contradictions and still move forward.  We realize we’re two cisgendered women talking—and we hope to include LGBTQ voices in the future. You are part of this conversation too.  We want to include all People of Color.  Your voices all matter.  And, sometimes, we just want to talk about our graying hair and living in a youth-oriented society.

We’re passionate, loud, funny, non-judgmental, and opinionated.  We are feminists.  We believe in abundance.  We’re not journalists, but we’re open about our experiences and eager to learn from others. We want to empower ourselves and others.  Did we say we were loud?

We want you to be in on our conversation—and help us move forward one conversation at a time.